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2021-03-10 19:45:41 +08:00
回复了 felixin 创建的主题 Bitcoin 比特币褪色,抛砖引玉
共识其实是统一,而损耗率这种,需要的应该是竞争,而不是统一。统一了还有啥活力?这跟交易有效性的统一共识完全不是一个作用。

@felixin #29
2021-03-10 19:38:29 +08:00
回复了 felixin 创建的主题 Bitcoin 比特币褪色,抛砖引玉
@felixin #26
这个很难想象。现实世界中,央行通过存款准备金率,商业银行通过不同的利率去适应调整,还有个竞争的过程。
比特币系统也能做到吗?比较怀疑。

还是需要请懂这块的来解说解说啊。 @BingoXuan
2021-03-10 19:27:22 +08:00
回复了 felixin 创建的主题 Bitcoin 比特币褪色,抛砖引玉
@sillydaddy #22
再写清晰一点吧:
现实经济世界中,央行是作为一个自适应的调节者存在的。根据现实经济的情况调节经济。

那么比特币系统也肯定需要调节以适应现实的经济,靠什么调节呢?即使是这样一个简单的贬值速度,如果不能根据现实调节,也会造成很严重后果。
2021-03-10 19:15:13 +08:00
回复了 felixin 创建的主题 Bitcoin 比特币褪色,抛砖引玉
想法出发点很好。但可以分析一下:

如果贬值是为了祛除比特币的通缩属性,那也要看这个贬值的幅度。比如像现在比特币作为避险,黑市,投机的用途,是因为人们预期它会上涨。而这个预期是动态变化的,那么要想抵消这种预期,比特币的贬值应该也是动态自适应的。问题是,比特币的贬值是比特币系统里的一个规则,怎么把真实世界里的调控参数输入到这个分布式系统里呢?

假设比特币的价值在于真正的交换价值,也就是类似于法定货币,那么怎样把央行的调控模式转换为去中心化系统的自适应呢?

你说的这个贬值速度,固定写在比特币系统里肯定是不行的,但有没有可能让它自适应,同时能反应真实经济世界的变化?就像央行一样。
分别用公司的网络(北京移动),还有自己的 4G(北京移动,北京联通)热点测了一下。
测试方法:tcping -t github.com 443,浏览器并没有打开 github.com ,只是单纯的 tcping...

规律如下:

公司网络(北京移动) ,4G 热点(北京移动):
跟楼主一样,每次超时,时间是非常准确的 3 分钟。比北京的“大姨妈式进京证”还要准确。
超时后,会出现短暂的 ping 通,时间不等,最短只 ping 通一次,最长几十秒。


4G 热点(北京联通):
非常有规律的超时,且每次超时只维持 1,2 次 No response,其余时间都是 ping 通。每段 ping 通的时长,大概是 10s 或者 5s 。没有过多测试。这部分的具体数据如下:

```
C:\Users\**>tcping -t github.com 443

** Pinging continuously. Press control-c to stop **

Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1206.298ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=139.423ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - No response - time=2001.500ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - No response - time=2001.029ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=545.484ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.312ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.441ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=137.531ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=141.392ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=154.307ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=157.207ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1150.087ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=167.929ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=143.909ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=293.581ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1175.954ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=152.318ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=143.159ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=149.835ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=272.407ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=141.300ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1174.043ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=157.583ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=160.159ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1171.108ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=140.294ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1146.048ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=156.782ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=145.642ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=134.585ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - No response - time=2001.431ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1158.397ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=147.623ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=146.323ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=280.270ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1182.085ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=176.244ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=156.240ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=165.209ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=145.192ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1173.106ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.359ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=139.380ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=152.978ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=170.191ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=176.179ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=176.526ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=155.801ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.890ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.561ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=140.476ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1160.078ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=151.960ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1157.914ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1172.587ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - No response - time=2000.507ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=156.721ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1169.221ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=168.544ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=142.525ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=138.443ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=148.958ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=140.405ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.996ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=151.621ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=158.897ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=149.869ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=135.513ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=147.747ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1173.130ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=154.095ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=159.471ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=152.155ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=178.374ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=162.425ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=153.748ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - No response - time=2001.547ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=147.753ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=150.426ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=146.645ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=140.087ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=161.604ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=1136.879ms
Probing 52.74.223.119:443/tcp - Port is open - time=155.782ms
Control-C
```
2021-03-08 16:36:44 +08:00
回复了 shanyue 创建的主题 程序员 技术周刊推送怎么样
坚持啊,坚持就会有收获!这才两期呢。内容暂时还没有阮一峰( https://ruanyifeng.com/blog/weekly/ )的丰富生动。
加油!
2021-03-07 23:18:16 +08:00
回复了 sillydaddy 创建的主题 奇思妙想 什么时候 AI 能给被子套被罩儿?
@zhongrs232 No 。今天恰好套了一个被子,有感而发。
2021-03-07 23:17:30 +08:00
回复了 sillydaddy 创建的主题 奇思妙想 什么时候 AI 能给被子套被罩儿?
@ETiV 厉害啊,下次试试。
2021-03-07 19:17:18 +08:00
回复了 lampxiongdi 创建的主题 职场话题 和朋友合伙创业,怎么入股?求建议
同意楼上,都拿基本工资了,这就是技术入股了,还出啥钱啊!毕竟这么多的工作经验。
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