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回复了 fancy2020 创建的主题 程序员 写代码或读文档的时候听什么歌?
@crysislinux 我知道个程序员听了 10+年 podcasts ,是那种本土人听的,不是学语言那种 voa 。听力特别好,是能不干扰他编程。
3 天前
回复了 alphat 创建的主题 OpenAI 不是, ChatGPT 4.0 语音已经这么强大了吗
是跟 elevenlabs 合作的,还是 openai 自己搞得。
我就想吐槽,一开始是中国人。然后视频里说“把刚才说的转成英文”,就地道美国人口音了。难道不是应该是中式口音才能骗过人类么? haha
“小侄女不吃药,自己把药丢了”
1 )入院,重新开药,看着吃。
2 )不入院,要逛大学 or 暂时寄宿=必须吃药。吃药就带着去逛大学 or 接受寄宿。
3 )都不同意,警察带回家。
4 )怕跑了,先把药骗了吃了(人总得吃饭吧),吃完再讲理。精神脑器质性病变,你累死都说不通。
NVIDIA’s DLSS 3.5: This Should Be Impossible!
14 天前
回复了 shenhualv7 创建的主题 YouTube youtube 手机端的长按快进又没有了?
@cxtrinityy 同意。视频点一下就有跳秒的了。
长按加速,这个动作费手指。哈哈
@qhgongzi 如果“特别是看到 [这么多人] 觉得看动画片没用:”
则说明这些人都没有看鸡娃公众号 or 认为跟自己毛线关系没有 or 认为 AI 把翻译都干下去了干嘛学英语。
他们没有看到考 PET ,FCE ,CAE ,雅思,托福的原版娃一路原版熏陶的过程。看动画,youtube ,看章节书冒险故事,看 what if 科普,看 reading explorer 考级。
这些不做功课的人听着就觉得孩子受不了。

所以你跟他们讲看动画管用,就像跟胖子说跑步能锻炼身体一样,鸡同鸭讲。
因为不是简单放片就能快速培养,因为肯定有家庭试过各种原因没做好,就认为没用了。

在已经认知足够的鸡娃组(鸡娃本来就被其他人各种嫌弃),这本来就是共识。就是有能力做到+能让孩子在更广阔的素材库里选知识吸收,就做了啊。

你们的精力应该用在共识的人抱团一路走。因为这个本来就是长期学用工具的过程。比如孩子编小故事,完成学校的手抄报(英文搜集资料,英文讲演)

“我自己也是从毕业四级不过,现在自己啃原版书过来的,”
你要知道,不是职业需要能啃下原版书的成人,并不多。所以你的体会能传给其他人么?
b 站最不缺的就是带你读原版的 up 主吧,但是结果呢?
@dito 国外的例子不能反推到国内。国内只要上了小学,马上就体会到时间被侵占。
国外无障碍 youtube ,商店告示牌都是英文 or 双语。

中国学英语是 EFL ,English as a foreign language ,外语
国外学英语是 ESL ,English as a second language ,第二语

这个两个根本不一样的曝光率
@qhgongzi 我帮你贴一下普通家长友好版。
这个大约是神奇树屋章节书兰斯级别。--家长对《神奇树屋》会更有概念。

你明显是肯做功课的家长。OP 明显是方言都当外语举例的门外汉家长。
所以他理解的轻松看动画,和你这个肯定不一样。

小孩听力肯定先于拼读。而且小初大把的时间。所以你家走的是原版娃路线。
谢谢你写的这么详细的案例



Disney- Bell's Discovery

Chatper 1. The Inventor's Daughter


Belle shifted her doll so it faced the front of the classroom.
Sharing her desk chair wasn't the most comfortable thing, but she'd do what Sylvie and the triplets did: sit hip to hip with their dolls in their cramped desks.

The special dolls were from Paris. Belle's friend Sylvie had been talking about hers for weeks. The other girls always seemed to be having such a good time, brushing the dolls’ hair, making up stories about their lives, and trading the outfits they'd collected. Finally, Belle had a doll, too, and she was eager to join in the fun.

The night before, Belle had stayed up past her bedtime, making a few changes to her doll with her father's tools. She couldn't help it. Inspiration had struck. Her father always told her that when inspiration strikes, you must grab it.

“Monsieur Jacques!”Thomas called.“Belle took another trip to the clouds.”He snickered, and Claudette, one of the triplets, joined him. Thomas was always poking fun at someone.

Belle startled. This wasn't the first time she had been caught in a daydream. But the teacher, Monsieur Jacques, never seemed to get angry with her He winked and held up a piece of blank paper and aquill. It was time for math lessons, Belle's favorite part of class, after reading.

Belle reached for her schoolbag, nearly knocking her doll to the ground. She set the doll on her desk and took out a quill pen and paper. When she sat up, she noticed that the classroom had fallen unusually quiet. Thomas's cheeks were red from holding in another laugh. Claudette's nose crinkled, and Sylvie's hand was clasped her mouth.

Everyone was staring at Belle's doll. Belle stared, too. There were the ears she'd cut into points. The purple skin she'd colored with her father's paint. And best of all, the wings she'd made from his leftover wire scraps. The doll was a fairy!
@weiweiwitch 没错。难点就在于家长根据每家娃的情况调整。

而且稍微启蒙后,每句精读也要跟泛听结合。因为就见过 G2-3 的小孩自学妈只喂,结果写出的神笔马良整个故事虽然完整。但是基本语法错误特别的多。按理说听的都是正确的组合搭配,语法都内化了啊。

但是人和人的吸收率不一样,投入量也不一样。
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